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Regis Tremblay (Host): This is Dateline News and Conversation. I have a great show and a great guest for you tonight, my friend just recently returned from China, Jeff J. Brown. Jeff, welcome back to the show.
Jeff J Brown (Guest): Always a pleasure, Regis.
Regis: We ran a show a month or so ago, and it was an incredible show (https://chinarising.puntopress.com/2023/10/25/regis-tremblay-asks-jeff-j-brown-who-is-in-china-is-it-free-capitalist-democratic-china-rising-radio-sinoland-231025/). I asked you so many questions about Russia, about China. Is there democracy there? Are they capitalist? Do they have freedom? Are they being monitored constantly? The credit system? You’ve just returned from, I think, a month-long visit to China. I want to remind people you previously spent some 16 years living in China. You’re an expert on what’s going on in that country. Maybe one of the only Westerners that has a clue. Jeff, first of all, what motivated you to go back?
Jeff: China is my muse. I mean, it’s the greatest show on earth. I couldn’t go back for three years because of COVID-19. And I regret moving away to try to retire in Thailand. I think it was a huge mistake, but that’s the way things worked out. I got stuck here in France for retirement and then got stuck here with Covid. Went back for a month in May by myself. Then went to the United States for ten days on the West Coast in Portland, Oregon, in the United States, and then went back to the United States in Oklahoma City for three weeks, the first three weeks of September.
And then I had two days to repack my bag and was in China from September 22nd until October 20th almost 30 days. So, I have seen, and I live here in France, so I have seen the United States. I’ve seen Blue State Portland Oregon. I’ve seen the Red State where I grew up in Oklahoma. And I’ve now spent two months in China since May.
Regis, you just cannot. It’s so hard to convey to people what’s going on in China compared to the United States and the rest of the West is just mind-boggling.
Regis: Okay, so let’s start with this recent trip to China. And then I’d like to talk about the comparison between what you found in China to what you found on your return to France and what you experienced previously in the United States. You show little vignettes of what you experienced every day (https://twitter.com/44_Days). How many cities did you go to? What parts of China?
Jeff: First off, the difference between the trip in May I was by myself. And so, I speak, read, and write fluent Chinese. So, I’m directly plugged into the Chinese. I don’t talk to elitists like writers at the New York Times and BBC and The New Yorker Magazine. I’m talking to taxi drivers, restaurant owners, small businesspeople, farmers, factory workers, hairdressers, masseuses. People trying to make a living. Shopkeepers. That’s who I’m talking to. And this time, though, I traveled with a colleague, an older woman who’s a colleague of mine.
And it really, really opened my eyes to things that I never ever saw before, because I just took it for granted. I mean, this lady who’s almost as old as me, can’t even speak English. She only speaks French. And so, I had to do all this translation of Chinese-French, French-Chinese for a month. And I just watched how the Chinese reacted to her. An old woman was absolutely a revelation for me. She was revered. She was absolutely respected. The people just wanted to help her so much as an older woman. I’m an older guy, but this lady is an older woman. And the way that the Chinese treated her just absolutely blew me away. She was treated like a queen.
And maybe I don’t think I’m that well-treated as an older guy. But she was treated like a goddess. And that really opened my eyes up to how much the Chinese venerate old people, venerate grandparents. And we told people I’ve got two and she’s got three kids. I’ve got one grandkid and she two. It was just like the whole world opened up for us. We showed pictures of her grandkids, my granddaughter and our children, her three children, and my two children. And it was just like, this is the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen in my life. And we met scores and scores of people all over China. Well, Central and Southern China.
We have invitations. I have now connected with so many people on WeChat. We have invitations to go everywhere, all over China. They welcome us . We want you to come. Total strangers. You know who wants to get to know us? So, to let you know where we went, we spent about ten days in Shenzhen, which is a city just north of Hong Kong. I was shocked to learn that it gosh, when I was there in 2019, only had like 13 or 14 million, and I saw a sign in the metro that was saying 17 million.
So, Shenzhen has grown by 4 million people in the last five years, and you wouldn’t even know it. And so, Shenzhen, Tencent, Huawei, ZTE it’s the Silicon Valley for the whole world. It’s the great high-tech DJI the drones. I mean there are just dozens of dozens of tech companies there. And I lived there for three years from 2016 to 2019. It’s an amazing city. It’s just amazing.
And so then flew up to Anhui province, which is in the central part of the country. And we participated in a rural wedding in Huaibei, which is a tiny town.
I mean, it’s just like in the middle of nowhere. Participated in a rural wedding, then went down to Hefei, which is the capital of Anhui and Anhui has a reputation for being kind of an armpit of China. But now, I mean, Hefei, these secondary cities we saw are just staggering, staggering the growth that’s going on there, the construction and the apartments and the skyscrapers everywhere. And Hefei is like a small city. It only has 10 million people. It’s a third-level city.
Then we went down to Huangshan Yellow Mountain, which is a UNESCO World Heritage Site. And there we met Amir Khan, a good friend of mine who is a professor at Hunan University in Changsha, Hunan, the world’s oldest university, with his Chinese fiancee. Of course, Oxford and Cambridge will never tell you that, but Hunan actually opened over a hundred years before Cambridge or Oxford. He’s a professor there and he and his fiancée (Chinese), met in Hefei, and then we went to Huangshan together. That was really cool. Then we trained over to Zhangjiajie.
Zhangjiajie is the inspiration for James Cameron’s backdrop for the movie The Avatar movies with the floating islands. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. And everywhere we’re zipping along on high-speed trains, going 305km an hour. The trains are so clean you can eat off the floor. Everywhere we went, the metro, the train stations, the bathrooms, there were bathrooms everywhere. And they are so clean you could eat off of their floors. So, we got to Zhangjiajie and stayed there for several days. Amazing. Just unbelievable.
We met a Buddhist monk at Tianmenshan Mountain Temple and got invited into his house and at the temple. And again, when you speak the language, it really helps. And then we went down to Guilin, which is very, very famous for the gumdrop mountains and the winding Li River. We stayed there for a few days and went back to Shenzhen. So, we saw, we rented taxis and went out into the countryside, saw little tiny villages, agriculture, talked to people in small towns, and talked to farmers. Regis, your fans out there have no idea.
There is construction going on everywhere even in small towns even hamlets, they’re building stuff there. They’re constructing stuff there. They’re widening the roads. They’re improving the infrastructure. They’re building bridges in the small villages. You talk about a productive economy China’s got it. And then we come back here. I hope I’m not ranting for too long for you. And it was just, I realized after the way my friend had been treated like a goddess everywhere we went… “Grandma”. She’s grandma. And everywhere she went she was treated like a goddess.
And we got back to France. And it wasn’t until we got back that I realized that Westerners are like that proverbial frog in the pot of water and you start heating it up. And the frog doesn’t jump out even though the temperature is getting hotter and hotter and hotter and hotter. And I’d say right now, after what I’ve seen in China and the way the people are cheerful and honest and hard-working and industrious and smiling and doing things and producing things and offering services and helping people and God, I dropped something on the ground, on the sidewalk, and immediately somebody would come and pick it up for me.
My French colleague with whom I traveled told me how three or four years ago. She had equilibrium problems twice three or three years ago, she fell down in Gare Saint Lazare the train station in Paris, with her baggage going down face first, twice, about six or eight months apart. How did she get treated. Back then she fell down twice and nobody. This is one of the busiest train stations in Europe. People walked, stepped over her and walked over her like she was a piece of meat. How do I explain that to the Chinese? I can’t. Where’s the pride? Where’s the community?
Where’s the sense of helping each other? It’s gone in the West and in China, it’s just all we-we- we us-us-us let’s work together. Twice that happened to her, and she had to lie there on the ground with her face in the concrete for two or three minutes while she got her bearings straight and was able to pick herself up and walk out. No Chinese could ever imagine that happening to anybody. Nobody. And so anyway, it’s just if you want me to tell you about France, I will.
Regis: Well, I want to ask you a couple of things about China because we had a terrific show a month or so ago that really surprised me and I think a lot of people had no idea about what China was really like. This time you went back and it was more not a political search or journey it was just traveling around and seeing with your own eye’s different parts of China. And I’d like to know this as a Westerner, and I’m living in Russia and the Russians are very much like that. If you fell on the ground and I did, I broke my hip two years ago, late at night.
I was surrounded by people who wanted to help. So, the Chinese are they wanting to be like Westerners? I mean, they’re manufacturing everything under the sun. Are they a consumer society like we are in the West? I mean, how would you describe I mean, they’re growing and they’re building all kinds of things, skyscrapers and factories and producing all kinds of products. Are they basically a consumer society or are they a whole lot more, I don’t know, connected to their humanity? I mean, I’m really curious about that.
Jeff: Well, they’re consumers. I mean, I even took a video. I took a video just walking down the sidewalk: restaurant store, restaurant store, restaurant store, restaurant store. I mean, there are probably tens of millions of small businesses in China selling everything and offering everything. So, I mean, the Chinese are ambitious. They love to eat. They love to have things. But that’s the superficial capitalist appearance that Westerners see and they go, oh, well, China’s capitalist. But underneath that is the massive, massive state-owned sector, the state-owned enterprises.
And even in, the private sector Alibaba, WeChat, Tencent, Huawei, ZTE, and thousands of other private companies, they’ve got Baba Beijing looking over their backs. The government here. The number one goal of a company in China is to maintain social harmony and economic prosperity for everybody, even if it means making less money. So, you have this massive expectation. By the people, I mean it’s coming from the people and then the government enforces what the people are asking and that is take care of society, take care of people, help people to be prosperous as a family.
So yeah, it’s huge I mean, you can’t walk down the street without someone having something to sell you. I mean, it’s just everywhere, but retail. But it’s got this massive, massive state footprint that keeps even the private companies in line. And if they get out of line, the Baba Beijing will tear them a new asshole. I mean, they have fined Alibaba and Tencent and Didi, the taxi rental, the taxi hire thing hire company which I’ll use all the time.
I mean, the government and all these big corporations, have like a gigantic proctologist probe up their backsides watching everything they do. And so, there’s not a lot that I mean, stuff happens of course. Stuff of course happens. But it’s a lot harder in China when you’ve got a government that is listening to the people and the people are saying, we want honest businesses, we want fair businesses, fair trade in the country. And then the government imposes what the people are asking.
Regis: I want to ask you about something that’s in the news. I read today on RT that China dismissed their defense minister. I’m sure you read that.
Jeff: Oh, there’s another one Qin Gang.
Regis: Yeah. What’s going on with that? Do they figure he wasn’t enough of a war hawk? Not militarily?
Jeff: Corruption. Qin Gang, the former foreign minister was deposed because he got caught having an affair, an extramarital affair with a woman back in the United States, because he was actually the ambassador in the United States for a while. Apparently, they had a love baby. And of course, he was immediately compromised, because if he’s got a love baby and an illicit affair, then he’s compromised. They could bribe him. They could blackmail him. Everything else. So, he was gone.
The defense minister, it’s hard to describe to Westerners how much accountability means in Chinese society. And it all goes back to Confucius. The government is responsible for the people and the people are responsible for the government to do their job. And you are accountable. Names are named. I mean, I showed this in my tweets at @44_days. You just walk down the street. Oh, well look here. Here’s the neighborhood cop, here’s his photo. There’s his mobile phone number. There’s his badge number.
I can pick up the phone and call my local cop. I know his name. When is that ever, ever going to happen in the West? I can go down to City Hall and make a complaint. I can make a suggestion. I did it several times and actually got results. I actually got results. I complained about a traffic problem on our street. Three weeks later it was fixed. You have the total, and I had to give my name and my ID. But there’s accountability. Accountability at every level. And Westerners hate accountability. They want to avoid accountability.
They want to avoid any responsibility for doing anything wrong or whatever. In China, I mean, even the bathrooms, Regis, you go into a bathroom and there’s, I even took a picture of the lady in one of the bathrooms. We’re smiling at each other. Her photo is up on the wall in the bathroom, and her phone number is on there. If the toilets are not clean, you can call the lady who’s responsible for the toilets to get them cleaned. That’s accountability at every level. And it goes up to generals. It goes up to ministers of defense. It goes up to Xi’s inner circle. He has deposed several people. Higher rank than the defense minister already. I mean, they’re gone because they were corrupt.
Regis: You know what I found? What I found interesting. The article said the Chinese officials have offered no reasons for the decisions. They don’t even explain why.
Jeff: They will. What happens is Qin Gang, who had the love baby. Now, most Chinese don’t know that he had a love baby and had an affair with a famous Chinese. I think she’s Hong Kong, a famous Chinese journalist quite attractive. Both were members of the Communist Party. Well, the first thing they did they were defrocked. They were kicked out of the Party. They both disappeared. And because of the shame of it, so don’t know what happened to the love baby. I’m sure her family’s probably taken care of it.
But later they will go through an entire investigation. I don’t know about the Hong Kong lady because she’s not really. I mean, she’s Chinese, but she was overseas and she’ll probably be let go, but he will. There will be an entire investigation and all the facts will be brought forward. All of this is private. It’s all off, nobody knows what’s going on. This is not Western, you know theater. You know where cameras are watching Donald Trump in court. That’s just absurd. And so, he’s obviously going to be guilty because he got caught.
And then they will come out. They will announce to them and they’ll show his picture in the court to all the people in China. It’ll be all over the media. He got kicked out of the Chinese Party, the Communist Party, and whatever happened, whatever the punishment is going to be, adultery probably, not a lot, but they won’t sit there and say, well, he was screwing Wang, you know whatever her name is, they’re not that, they’re much classier than that.
They’ll just say he was caught performing moral turpitude. All the Chinese are going to know what that is: he was screwing somebody. But they’re not going to come out and say it. They’re too classy for that. They’re too sophisticated for that. But the code words will come out so that all the Chinese will know he was fucking around and it’ll be gone. He’ll be gone. He’ll disappear. I mean, his career is ruined.
Regis: Yeah, well that’s interesting. All right, so you went back for a month and basically to listen to you talk about it. It was a really idyllic trip back to this idyllic place. You came back to France and what did you find? What was your impression?
Jeff: We came back from this amazing trip, and we were treated like royalty. And we made all these friends and people were so nice to us and everybody was just super, super friendly. The service was unbelievable. Everything was just wonderful and people were smiling and cheerful and high hello. There’s civility among the people, not just with foreigners, you could watch it with other people. And we get back to Charles de Gaulle airport, and it’s just the whole, in the first 12 hours, ten plus two I felt like I was in a dystopian hellhole.
And again, it was dystopian. It is a dystopian hellhole. Everything was broken. The turnstiles were broken. The ticket composter was broken. Weeds are growing up everywhere, signs are moss-covered and peeling off. In China, the public spaces, streets, sidewalks and parks are well-maintained, clean and manicured.
The train was, it was like riding in a scene in Blade Runner, with Deckard, the cop chasing escaping replicants. I felt like Deckard. The people around me were looking and acting like those runaway androids. It was just pitch dark with only one track light running the length of the car, and everybody was just lugubrious and depressed, and the train was barely running. And the trains now in France stop all the time.
The trains have to stop all the time because there are homeless people on the tracks, and they go in the tunnels where it’s warmer and away from the rain. There are drug addicts on the tracks, or someone’s committed suicide and jumped in front of a train. So, several times, just to get to the damn train station from Charles de Gaulle to Saint Lazare. We got stopped and they call it an incident on the tracks. Well, everybody knows what it is. It’s either a drug addict, a homeless person, or someone committed suicide.
And I’m pretty sure that right before we got to Saint Lazare, we were only like 50m away. And the train slammed on its brakes. People were flying in the car, falling over each other, piled up on the floor. I mean, can you believe this? You know it just. And my friend explained, well it’s a driverless, Line 14 is driverless. It’s all automatic. Well, they need to work on that. They need to work on that algorithm.
So, people were on the floor, trying to get back up, and I am sure, I’m 90% sure since we were only about 50m away, 100m away from Saint Lazare, somebody jumped out onto the track because of course, in France, most of the metro stations don’t have the glass, have the glass barriers like in China. Every metro station, everywhere in China, they’ve got a nice big glass high glass barrier so that you can’t fall in. People get killed all the time in France, on the metros, because people fall in even if they’re not committing suicide. They just trip and fall and because they don’t want to spend the money to install the barriers.
Then we got to get to Saint Lazare, I had to use the SNCF (train company) app to buy our tickets. Don’t get me started about how bad and buggy it is. Just know that it is an embarrassment to 20th century technology. And what company would use black, turquoise and white as theme colors? It’s like working in the Indiana Jones Temple of Doom.
We waited three hours to find out our train was canceled at the last minute because of debris on the tracks. So we had book new tickets on the next train was another three hours later. Six hours waiting time. Trains run on time in China. Like clockwork.
My friend spent €17.50 at Starbucks for two coffees and fruit cup. The same would cost €5-7 in China. The servers ignored her and she finally had to ask to be served. They were rude and snotty, only talking among themselves. The coffee was not very good. We had much better in China for a lot less.
Finally! We have to use our tickets to get onto the train platforms. And then a woman in broad daylight. Her thing wasn’t working. And I said, well, let me try mine. So, I tried mine. Mine worked. She jumped in front of me. I mean, she was ready to leave me, because once you use the QR code once, you can’t use it again. So, she jumped in front of me and ran away in broad daylight.
She was ready to leave me without being able to pass through the turnstile, because she used my QR code because hers wasn’t working in broad daylight in front of everybody. How do I explain that to the Chinese? Luckily, the turnstile kind of wavered and I was able to push through, but it’s like.
Because of the canceled train, SNCF’s software is so crappy that scores of passengers had reservations for the same seats. It was chaos, with baggage piling up in the aisles. Thankfully, most everybody was gracious about the mess, with people grabbing non-reserved seats and those between the cars.
Except for one. My friend put her bag on the luggage rack on top of another suitcase. Suddenly, a woman starts screaming and yelling, making a huge, loud stink that my friend had no right to put her bag on top of her suitcase. My friend calmly explained it is widely accepted that the luggage racks are for the passengers to maximize the storage space. This crank kept it up and when my friend would not back down, the prior was still screaming and yelling up and down the car in front of everyone, as she was trying to find her seat. After cool and polite China, this was like a slap in the face.
You are paranoid everywhere from start to finish, because France is rife with pickpockets. You can’t relax. It that freedom? How to explain all this to the Chinese? You can’t.
It took us almost as long to get from Paris to Cherbourg as it did from Shenzhen to Paris.
And then the coup de grace, we get to Cherbourg. Now. Remember, this is not an inner-city slum. This is not Marseilles drug land. this is not the suburbs of Paris with all the riff-raff and the drugs, and Cherbourg is just a regular old working-class city, just 250,000 people. We get to the train station, and right outside the train station are two filthy mattresses. Two mattresses for homeless people. We’re seeing piles of human feces, trash and soggy bread around the beds. Where’s the pride? Where’s the decency? I mean, it’s just beyond.
Welcome back to France!
How do I explain that to the Chinese? When you can eat off the floors of their train stations? I mean, it’s just mind-boggling. And it just goes on and on. We called for a taxi from Paris to meet us in Cherbourg. Never showed up. So, we took the bus with all our baggage.
My friend told me she got her reply for her property taxes. She gets €900 per month in retirement income and her house taxes are €2,400/year. She knew not to dare ask for 12 monthly installments, so she asked for six. They gave her four months to pay it off, €600 per month, or 2/3 of her income. How is she supposed survive on €300/month when her electric bill is €180/month? What kind of government would do that to its people? Not China’s.
Just the rip-offs and the cost of everything is just exploding. We’re poor here. We’re poor. We can’t afford to live here anymore. We can’t. We don’t have the money to live in Europe anymore. That’s why I want to go back to China. We have tons of money in China. Everything is 3 to 7 times cheaper. So why live here when I can be treated like a good old teacher? People love and respect me and revere me because I’m a teacher and an old guy.
Regis: So let me ask you this. Obviously, there are millions of Chinese who are doing well and have money. Have they begun traveling to the West like the Japanese did for years and years and years? They were everywhere, all over the United States, all over Europe. And have the Chinese been traveling outside the country? I mean, yes, I mean, tell me about that. And then if they are traveling, they must be experiencing the same kind of things you just were talking about.
Jeff: Well first off, in Paris, all the signs in the metro and the airport are in Chinese because there are so many Chinese who love France. And I’m sure, they face the same indignities. Of course, they don’t speak the language, thank God. Oh, what they would see and hear and understand. But I’m sure they do. But you know, all the beggars on the streets. All the homeless people. I was in Portland, Oregon supposedly a rich city in Oregon. I saw drug addicts in broad daylight.
Not just one, but a bunch of them wallowing in their vomit and their feces on the sidewalk. Drug addicts. And you could see they had their drug gear. No one was doing anything. No one cared. In the West, we don’t care. We don’t care anymore. We don’t care about each other. We don’t care about our communities. We don’t care about anything except Number One. So, I’m sure of course, the Chinese, they’re going to the Eiffel Tower. They’re going to the Louvre. They’re going to the Grand Palais. They’re going to all the major sites.
They typically travel in groups with a Chinese guide. So, I’m sure they’re really kind of not all of them, but I think probably most of them are probably pretty protected from all the horrible stuff that I see. The pickpocketing is so bad now in Paris. It’s like a war zone. We were just paranoid the whole time watching our stuff. I put everything inside my shirt. I looked like a pregnant man.
I had all my stuff inside my shirt. I got pickpocketed last February at Saint Lazare. I mean, there’s pickpockets everywhere. I even had a guy try to pickpocket me on this trip going to the airport. I caught him, but there were no cops there to stop him, no cameras. I screamed, “It was him”! Total impunity. No accountability. But I’m sure that the Chinese are they’re their guides and their tour groups and stuff. Be careful about your belongings.
Make sure the zipper on your bag is in the front where you can see it, because if it’s in the back, they’ll open it up in the back when you’re walking, steal your stuff. That’s not freedom. In China, they don’t even lock their electric motorbikes. They just leave them unlocked. Nobody even locks up their electric motorbikes. That’s how honest China is. So, I’m sure they probably see I don’t know if they see the drugs being sold below the Eiffel Tower. I don’t know, but they love France. And they’ll keep coming because they just love it.
Regis: You told me in a previous show that the Chinese were never colonizers. They did travel the world. And they were traitors. They were trading goods back and forth and they were interested in culture. You told me this before. So, what you’ve just painted is a very stark comparison of how decrepit and corrupt the Western world has become. You’re talking about France, but it’s coast to coast in the United States, from Portland, Oregon, to Portland, Maine, from Minneapolis, Minnesota, to Fort Myers, Florida. It’s everywhere.
And it’s a very sad commentary on what has happened to basic humanity in the West. You can talk about Western liberal values. You can talk about Wokeism and all the rest of it that has basically, in my view, torn it apart. The last of what was good about humanity. And they’re trying to project that on the rest of the world. They’re trying to project it on Russia. They projected it all across Europe. There are a number of eastern countries.
I think, that are mostly, maybe Orthodox and maybe more traditional that are trying to resist it. But what I see happening is Russia and China, two really very different types of politics, types of economic ways of doing business, but basically. I think, defending our basic humanity. I think both those countries, and I know for sure Russia understand that Russia is fighting not only for survival but fighting this war against Western liberal Woken type of values. Don’t know how it’s going to end, but.
Jeff: Well, Wokeism is DOA in China. The people don’t want it. They don’t like it. There is no tittytainment on TV or on the internet in China because it’s not the government is saying they don’t want it it’s the people telling the government to keep it out. So, there’s none of this liberaloid. I mean, it happened. I remember when we were living in China from 1990 to 1997, and there were reruns of Friends and Dallas and all this other soul-sucking American culture. It was just awful.
Well, that stopped with Xi Jinping in 2012. That all just disappeared. And he started talking about traditional values. It was sort of like, okay, we went through the Western phase. Let’s get back to Confucius. Let’s get back to The Dao. Let’s get back to Buddhism. Let’s get back to Socialism, Marxism. Let’s get back to family. And so that’s all gone now in China. If a film from the United States is allowed to be played here.
If there’s a sex scene, all you’re going to see is the man and the woman starting to hug and kiss and fall on the bed and CUT. And then they go to the next scene. That’s all you’re going to see. You’re going to see a kiss and that’s it. Because that’s all the Chinese want to see. They don’t want to see all that vapid, soulless tittytainment, the erotic pornography. I will say their movies can be pretty violent, especially with the Mafia Chinese kind of Chinese mafia style movies the Triads in Hong Kong, and all that. But as far as sex is concerned, Gay couples and ads, forget it.
It’s not going to happen. They don’t want it. Marriage is between a man and a woman, period which is like the same thing in Russia. So, it’s just it’s a totally different world there. And people say, oh, but they’re really big in the WEF and oh, they’re really big at Davos. And oh, they’re really big at the World Health Organization. Well yeah, if you want to defeat the enemy and they invite you into their camp, then you’re going to play a part. So, China plays a part in the WEF and the Agenda 2030, which will be used to destroy the West.
China will use Agenda 2030 to make China a Paradise because it will be for the people and not for the elites. Again, it’s so hard for Westerners to understand that democratic decisions are made in China from the bottom up. It’s not the Communist Party of China telling the people what to do it’s the people telling the Communist Party of China what they need to do. Everything is turned upside down. And so, people just can’t fathom. Oh, but it’s communist. Well, hey, it’s consensual. It’s mutual. It’s bottom up. It’s popular. It’s people-driven. That’s communism. I like it.
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