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Ania K (Host): Hello, everyone. Welcome back to my channel. And as always, a quick reminder, as you know, just in case, join me on locals, join my mailing list and you find my website, Instagram, and other links down below in this video. Today after many, many months of not talking to Jeff J. Brown, I am joined by Jeff J. Brown who I had the pleasure of having a conversation several times. I contacted Jeff because I really wanted to get an update from him. But before we start, Jeff, where people can find you if they want to follow your work? What’s the best way?
Jeff J Brown (Guest): Thank you, Ania. It’s always lovely to talk with you and be with you across the internet. And yeah, China Rising Radio Sinoland, four words in English China Rising Radio Sinoland just web search it and you’ll find my website and then I also wrote the China Trilogy. So just Google search China Trilogy Jeff J. Brown and you’ll find my books. And so there you go. Thank you.
Ania: Perfect. And I will attach again all the links below this video. So, let’s start with this. Some of you don’t know, Jeff, because we haven’t talked for quite some time. Jeff actually is an American, but he lives in France at this moment because he lived in many different countries as much as I’m aware. And I would like to get an update from Jeff. First of all, let’s start with France overall. How is the inflation, energy prices, and the situation for the living of regular citizens in France right now?
Jeff: It’s awful, Ania. By the way, I’m actually a dual national. I’m French and an American. So, I’ve got a lot of skin in this game here in France. I vote in France. I pay taxes in France. I use the medical system. I have French family here. So, I consider myself as much French as I do American. It’s awful. My wife was just talking about about how we used to get like 5 or 6 lemons in one bag. We’re now down to three. We used to get four endives. And now we’re down to two.
So, they’re keeping the prices the same. But everything is being downsized, everything is being shrunk, quantities are being shrunk and prices are going up. And of course, the elites don’t care. They don’t pay taxes. I just found out today, I just found out this week that a representative or deputy in all the regional leaders the regional people mayors, and all these people when if they just spend one day in that position, the senators and national assembly, they get thousands and thousands of euros a month in retirement while the rest of us get hundreds. And the retirement here is so low and so awful, and it’s an embarrassment.
Ania: So, Jeff, prices went up as far as the food. Are you able to say approximately percentage-wise?
Jeff: Well, I would say with all the shrinking and the downsizing 25, 30%, and 50% for energy. I’m pointing outside my window, the D-beaches are just 150m from here. And our fuel tank prices have tripled. Gas has gone for our car has gone from 1.2 to €1.3 per liter up to almost €2 per liter. Electricity has doubled and tripled. Thousands of small businesspeople are declaring bankruptcy, closing their doors because they cannot afford electricity. Especially people like high energy consumers, like bakers, restaurants, who use a lot of electricity and heating to keep the places warm.
But the problem is, of course, the elites, the aristocrats, what I call the trillionaire dictators. They own the airwaves. It’s never discussed. Everybody is just living in a delusion that everything’s fine and it’s not. So, I don’t know how, but I think Westerners are just so used to such awful governance for 3,000 years that we just accept it and just take it. And I don’t know at what point this is going to explode, but it’s much, much worse than what you see in the mainstream media, what I call the Big Lie Propaganda Machine. It’s much, much worse.
Ania: So overall, this is exactly what I was going with this because as much as I know, there is a pushback in France from citizens. But do you see when you talk to people, what is overall the approach to this? What is their stand on this? How do they feel? What do they think is the solution here?
Jeff: I would say that most of them are in denial. I think most of them are like make-believe. They’re deluded. They are absolutely deluded. The mainstream media, the Big Lie Propaganda Machine keeps rolling out one distraction after another. There’s a stand-up comedian named, I think his name is Pierre Palmade, who ran over somebody, some people, and killed a mother.
And it’s just all this, what my Chinese friend Wei Ling Chua calls tittytainment, because all this is just stuff about sex and drugs and scandals and Wokeism, people are just distracted and I think they’re compartmentalizing what’s going on.
Today there’s a strike. Today, there’s a national strike. Also tomorrow, they’ll have several national strikes. But here’s something very, very telling, even though they’re having all these national strikes, I glanced at the TV a couple of nights ago and 2/3 of the French think that all of these protests are going to do no good and that they’re going to reform the retirement system anyway. And only one-third think that these protests are going to help.
Ania: Do you believe in those statistics or they are also faked?
Jeff: I don’t know. That’s a good point.
Ania: Yeah, because maybe they are saying this just to discourage people.
Jeff: There’s so much psychological operation going on here. You just have no idea what to believe. But this was a privately owned conservative TV station C News. It wasn’t the government. But of course, they have to toe the line, too, or they’re going to lose their license. So anyway, we’re hanging in there like I’m wearing gloves to warm my hands because we’re trying to use as little heat as possible.
It’s cold. I’ve got a scarf on and I’m not running the heater in my room, because at €2 a liter for heating fuel, it goes fast. So, I don’t know, I mean, where this is going to go. It’s just demoralizing that the elections have been rigged. And at least going back since Sarkozy and then Hollande and now Macron, the elections were totally rigged.
Ania: And so, tell me now, Jeff, with Macron, because he’s hanging as well. He’s not so solid now as far as his presidency. Right? Am I correct? How is this looking for him? Tell me. Because people are more and more against him, is it true against his presidency or what does it look like? Is there any chance for Le Pen to be back or not?
Jeff: Well, what they will do is, Mélenchon is the supposed left. He’s not going to run again. But they’re co-opted by the trillionaire dictators. This is not China. This is not Venezuela. This is not Iran where they’ve got real people’s socialism. The left is co-opted. The whole system is rigged. Macron is in his second term and last term. So, what does he care, he’s Goldman-Sachs, he’s a Pygmalion of Goldman-Sachs. He’ll retire and be a multi, multi-millionaire. He doesn’t care.
Ania: But do you think he will actually go to the end of his presidency?
Jeff: Oh, yeah, of course.
Ania: You think he will? You don’t think they’re going to vote him out.
Jeff: Impossible. The Senate is totally, totally bought and sold by the trillionaire dictators. The Chamber of Deputies is totally sold out. And now every time they want to do something, they just use Article 49/3 of the Constitution, which is basically just an override, a legislative override. Since Hollande, that’s all they do. They’re just passing laws by fiat. The prime minister, who is appointed by the president of course, they just say okay, we’ll let you blow off hot air in the legislative branch for a couple of weeks and make it look like we’ve got a real democracy here in France.
And there’s real deliberation and real discussion and some protests. And then they just enforce Article 49, Section three. And they just override whatever the legislature says they can sign all the laws they want by executive fiat. That’s what Hollande did with the French Patriot Act. He just passed it. That’s what they can do now. So, there’s no democracy, with Hollande forcing the Patriot Act when he was first in office.
Just like the United States, the Constitution is dead. The French constitution is dead. There’s no deliberative democracy and there has been none since Hollande was elected back in 2007, I think it was. So, everybody’s just kind of compartmentalizing all this misery. And we’re having big, massive protests today. But they’ll go ahead, and they’ll just pass the retirement reforms over the heads of the people, as they have been for the last 40-50 years.
Ania: Yeah, but Jeff, I got some comments after our last interview from viewers, they were talking about there’s a very strong movement in the countryside, like small communities where people gather and they support one another with the produce. So, I feel like maybe this is the way to go in this. So, what do you think? Do you know any people like this? Do you hear about those kinds of small communities that actually becoming more and more as much as they can to be independent away from that system?
Jeff: Absolutely. We have a garden. We grew vegetables all last year. And there’s another garden vegetable garden planted for this year. That is one shining hope for France, is that the rural areas of France are still very dynamic. There’s a lot of whatever you want to call it, cohesion in the rural community. And so that’s hopeful. Obviously, voting doesn’t matter, maybe at a local level, maybe up to the mayoral level.
But once you get to the regional and then, of course, national level, there they are simply puppets of the trillionaire dictators. And there’s a socialist mayor down the road here is about 15km away from us. Also, the mayor of Cherbourg is a socialist. There are some socialist mayors and communities and city councils. But it’s like a few fleas on the elephant’s rump. But yeah, the rural area is hopeful. So go local. It doesn’t do any good to vote.
They’ll never let Le Pen in. And they will rig the election so that there’ll be another phony Macron right against her. And then they’ll demonize her in the mass media in the Big Lie Propaganda Machine that she’s a fire-breathing fascist. And she’s going to destroy the world and we’ll keep having these awful Biden’s, Scholtz’s, Sunak in the UK, Boris Johnson, these people they’re buffoons. They’re just complete total buffoons.
Ania: Yeah, but I feel somehow, even though I know what you mean, I still feel there is a chance and I still see this is going to collapse all of this. It’s just not sustainable.
Jeff: That has true.
Ania: And sooner or later and they know it. We all know it. They know it, we know it. It’s not going to last. Doesn’t matter what they try it’s just painful to go through this for everyone. But I want to ask you about Africa now.
Jeff: I lived there for ten years and worked there for ten years.
Ania: What country was it? And tell me about this relationship now between France and some African countries.
Jeff: Yeah, really, really fascinating.
Ania: What do you make out of it? And from your knowledge, as you said, you live there. So, if you can share with us.
Jeff: Well, I lived in and worked in Tunisia for two years. And then lived and worked for five years in Algeria. And I was a regional director. This was back in my high-flying executive days when I was making a lot of money. Of course, that was all lost in bankruptcy in 2008. But anyway, I was a high-flying executive for all of the Middle East and all of Africa. So, I traveled all over Africa and the Middle East for ten years. And it was just amazing, the people, an amazing culture, and a history that’s totally denied by the West.
Much, much more advanced and sophisticated, if you get behind all the racism, the Western racism. So, yeah, I’ve been to most of the countries in Africa and I’ve been to most of the countries in the Middle East, working there. And anyway yes, in French West Africa. Macron has made a fool of himself. He is such a megalomaniac and a narcissist. Remembers, he is a Goldman-Sachs Pygmalion. He has been created by Goldman-Sachs.
He came from nowhere and he is nothing more than a finger puppet for the city of London and Wall Street. So, he goes to Africa. He pisses off everybody he meets. He is so arrogant and so out of touch. Algeria, which suffered for 132 years of vicious colonialism, it’s one of the most powerful countries in Africa with gas, oil, and everything else, phosphates and everything else, he’s pissed them off. They don’t want to talk to him. Morocco doesn’t want to talk to him.
And now we’ve got three countries in West Africa who have basically told the French to go to hell and to leave. And that is the Central African Republic, that is Mali and that is Burkina Faso. And they have actually told and made the French military leave their countries, their Barkhane military operation. They’ve been there for ten years and of course, what were they doing just like the Americans everywhere else, they were funding and supporting the terrorists to weaken the governments and then have the excuse, well, you need us, because look at all of this violence.
Ania: Right, regime change is another thing.
Jeff: You have to have a regime change. Well, Burkina Faso remembers Thomas Sankara, they assassinated him. The French don’t even deny having assassinated 22 African presidents, African leaders.
Jeff: 22. I have the list in one of my books. So anyway, he has pissed off everybody. And then he went to the Democratic Republic of Congo, which used to be Zaire, one of the wealthiest and biggest countries in Africa. And I don’t know if you saw the little clip, but at the end of the press conference, at the end of his visit, he got into a fight, a verbal fight with the president of a major African country.
And the president of the DRC was pointing his finger at him and talking back at him and telling him he was wrong everywhere on television. Africa is standing up. They’ve got a billion people. They’ve got the world’s vastest resources. Angola just discovered another huge oil deposit offshore. It’s China there. And what’s really interesting, Russia’s there, and what’s really interesting is that not only have they kicked out the French, they are publicly saying we love Russia and we love China and they are calling the Russians and the Chinese to come in and basically replace the French.
And this is something that who could have thought of this in 1402, when Spain first invaded the Canary Islands and exterminated the 80,000 people in the Canary Islands to start Western Colonialism and Imperialism. The Africans are standing up. They are saying no to the West. They are gaining a greater voice around the world. And a lot of this is thanks to the Chinese and the Russians, because the Chinese and the Russians, of course, are supporting them and cooperating with them. And it’s not just Sub-Saharan Africa. It’s Egypt. And Algeria now is like it is inviting the Russians in.
Egypt is doing incredible things. They’re building a brand-new capital, a brand-new capital outside of Cairo. And the Chinese are building it with the Egyptians. And it’s not just Africa, the Middle East is starting to say to hell with the United States. We’re sick of this. The Saudis have an RMB, Chinese yuan oil contract in hand and are just dangling it in front of Biden’s face. And there are rumors now that Saudi Arabia is already doing RMB yuan contracts for oil, and doing it without making it public, which means they’re not using the dollar.
The whole thing, again, I’m hopeful in spite of the local mess that we have here in Europe and basically, the whole of the West, Australia, New Zealand, what I call Eurangloland, the awful genocide in Palestine, North America, NATO, in spite of all this, I am very hopeful. I see 500 years of colonialism and I see 3,000 years of Western Hegemony going back to the ancient Greeks, starting to finally come down and we can thank of Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Eritrea, and Africa and all these countries are starting to wake up and say no.
Ania: Let me ask you this because when you were talking about Africa, I strongly feel that the future of Africa is so, the potential there but it needs to be reborn again because it was so destroyed on many levels. But, Jeff, do you think that Europe will recover? And if it will recover, do you see any time frame for this or do you think it’s going to be for a long time getting worse and worse? How do you see that?
Jeff: Well, as you know, we’ve talked about this. The problem is, is that since 1945 from the D-beaches right outside my window. The problem is, is that the United States has infected the European hierarchy in Brussels, all the national governments except for Serbia and Hungary, who are standing up against the United States and NATO. But the major countries in Europe. And of course, we know about Eastern Europe, and how crazy they are against the Russians.
But Italy, Germany, France what we can say England, they have been so infected with fifth columnists. The United States has just put in basically stooges who are more loyal to Washington than they are to their own people. And they would have to get rid of thousands and thousands and thousands of people in these administrations, because they’re all bought and sold and loyal and bribed and extorted.
Ania: It’s everywhere.
Jeff: Extorted by the United States, we know where your wife works. We know where your children go to school. And this is how the United States works. And this is how they work. This is how they do business. So, I think what’s going to have to, what will obviously make it happen is the collapse of the US Dollar. When they finally realize that the United States will never pay back that $30 trillion in debt and it’s actually much higher than that, will cause the Euro to crash. That will cause the US dollar to crash, and it will elevate the Chinese yuan, the Russian ruble.
Ania: But isn’t it already done, Jeff, in a way, isn’t it dollar already I’m not saying completely dead, but maybe it is already dead? We just don’t know it.
Jeff: Well, that’s true. That old expression if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it happened, did it really fall, and how they can keep controlling the gold price, how they can keep controlling the silver price, how they can keep inflating the stock markets is obviously because they own, they have the Big Lie Propaganda Machine.
And it’s kind of like The Wizard of Oz. If you remember that movie The Wizard of Oz, it’s like this old sickly man behind this big veil. But he’s a nobody. He’s just bluster. But unfortunately, a dollar still counts around the world. And there’s going to have to be a time when there’s just, what they call a run on the dollar where the dollar starts to become so devalued like the Deutsche mark of the Weimar Republic back in the 19th century.
Ania: Like a historical cycle. No, it is. It’s like we are repeating very similar historical moments in many countries, actually, at this point. That’s how I see it, too. Yes.
Jeff: Well, and again, I go back to Russia and China. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks to you and Iran and the DPRK, which I call the Asian Quad. As long as they stick together and control Asia, the West is screwed. And the tipping point, the tectonic shift the tectonic plate geopolitical shift, of course, is Ukraine. And so, the Russians are bleeding the West dry. The Chinese and the Russians are like brothers in arms. I mean, they’re just like indivisible. They’ve got Iran who’s got the Middle East at attention. The DPRK with hyper-gliding thermonuclear missiles. That can take out the east coast of the United States.
Ania: I hope this never happens.
Jeff: Well, I know, I hope it never happens. But there the threat is extremely, extremely concerning. The fact that they can actually do it keeps the United States a little bit at bay. And so, yeah, it’s got to come down. But to me, it’s got to go to the dollar. Once the dollar starts to run, but they own the media. They own the banks. They own the stock exchanges. They own the commodities market. The commodity exchanges. How long they can keep it up, I don’t know.
I guess people like you and me, as we’ve gone from four endives now down to two endives. And guess we’ll get to one endive per package and then it’ll be when it costs three times as much and 12 times as much as what it used to cost. Maybe at that point, the people will just flood the streets. And what really upsets me is, is that these strikes are worthless. I said this on a show with Press TV.
I said that, if they really wanted these strikes to be effective, they would all go around and they would surround the Elysée, where Macron lives and works. They would go to the national legislature and surround the legislature and they would go to the Central Bank of France and surround the Central Bank of France and not leave. Well, then there might be some changes. But going out to Champs-Elysées for a couple of days and blowing off steam, it’s going to take a lot more than that.
Ania: Thank you, Jeff. I will end on something maybe not expected, but I will say just came to me because in spite of it all, there is one thing I truly believe in, and this is divine intervention. And in a way, it’s as crazy as it might sound to some viewers. I believe that God is actually showing us through this experience so much that we will not know if we wouldn’t be going through this pain, unfortunately.
But at the end of the day, I believe God is in charge and there is always miracles are happening. And this can be I know this doesn’t sound geopolitical now, but there is Divine intervention. So, so many people will not go to those protests. Maybe they just ask in their hearts and they pray for change. And they are important, too, because that’s how this world is. It’s not just what we see with our eyes, right? There is some supernatural power. So, I might sound strange to some people, but I know many of the people will understand what I’m talking about.
Jeff: Well, I practice Buddhist meditation every day religiously, if you’ll pardon the pun, I practice Buddhist meditation every day. And so, I will include this wavelength of power and optimism, and spirituality in my Buddhist meditation tonight before I go to bed.
Ania: Thank you, Jeff. Merci beaucoup.
Jeff: Merci Madame Ania.
Ania: Thank you so much, everyone, for you for watching us. And if you would like to follow Jeff’s work or read his books, please check out the links that are in the description box. And if you enjoy the content, please hit that like button and see you in the next video. Lots of love everyone.
Jeff: Please send me a link and I’ll promote it on my website.
Ania: Thank you, Jeff.
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JEFF J. BROWN, Editor, China Rising, and Senior Editor & China Correspondent, Dispatch from Beijing, The Greanville Post
Jeff J. Brown is a geopolitical analyst, journalist, lecturer and the author of The China Trilogy. It consists of 44 Days Backpacking in China – The Middle Kingdom in the 21st Century, with the United States, Europe and the Fate of the World in Its Looking Glass (2013); Punto Press released China Rising – Capitalist Roads, Socialist Destinations (2016); and BIG Red Book on China (2020). As well, he published a textbook, Doctor WriteRead’s Treasure Trove to Great English (2015). Jeff is a Senior Editor & China Correspondent for The Greanville Post, where he keeps a column, Dispatch from Beijing and is a Global Opinion Leader at 21st Century. He also writes a column for The Saker, called the Moscow-Beijing Express. Jeff writes, interviews and podcasts on his own program, China Rising Radio Sinoland, which is also available on YouTube, Stitcher Radio, iTunes, Ivoox and RUvid. Guests have included Ramsey Clark, James Bradley, Moti Nissani, Godfree Roberts, Hiroyuki Hamada, The Saker and many others. [/su_spoiler]
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