Jeff J. Brown on Press TV: with China being the key link, Iran & Saudi Arabia reconcile for independent, regional security. China Rising Radio Sinoland 230418


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Press TV host Kaveh Taghvaei: For a better look into the issue, we’re now joined by political analyst Seyed Mostafa Khoshcheshm, who’s joining us from the Iranian capital, Tehran. Also, we have geo-political analyst Jeff Brown, who’s joining us from Normandy. Gentlemen, welcome to the program. Let’s start off with Mr. Khoshcheshm in Tehran. How do you view the gravity and the importance of Tehran and Riyadh restoring their bilateral ties?

Seyed Mostafa Khoshcheshm: Hello, dear. Thanks for having me. Well, this is highly important because it’s marking, it’s actually displaying a number of facts. You know, for quite a long time, several decades, the US was expanding its deployment in the region, in West Asia or the Middle East, claiming that it’s fighting terrorists, that it means establishing peace and security and stability. But it’s now pretty much clear that it’s the absence of the US that would bring about peace and security for decades.

Their think tanks, as well as officials and former officials, claimed that if the US evacuated the region or lost its power in this region, then there would be a vacuum that would end up in strife as well as conflicts and wars among neighbors and the regional states. But it’s now proved to be otherwise. First of all, as far as the US was imposing its hegemonic rule in this region one way or another, they were persuading Saudi Arabia, as well as many other Arab states, to antagonize Iran to go into proxy warfare against Iran and some Arab states that were deceived by Washington.

They took part in all the plots throughout the past 1 or 2 decades against Iran, but they failed again and again and again since the US failed, originally speaking. But now it seems that wisdom has come back. It is exactly now as the US is losing its foothold in this region and is moving out of this region, or it’s growing weaker in this region and is shifting power to or deployment to the South China Sea. We can see that now there is more wisdom among the regional countries. Now there is an open space for wisdom.

The global transition of power from the West to the East has been very much helpful in this regard because Saudi Arabia and others have realized that after all the failures against Iran, now they can see that the US pullout from Afghanistan, as well as other countries, the US behavior with other countries, displays pretty well that the US doesn’t care about anyone and anything but itself and they would be left in ruins and that the US is misusing them. So now that the power is in transition from the Western hemisphere to the East to China, to Asia, Iran, Russia, and others, it’s becoming more clear and better.

It’s understandable that countries like those in the Persian Gulf, on the southern rim of the Persian Gulf, they are coming to realize that they need to resolve their problems by themselves through amity, through the resumption of ties with Iran. That’s why the UAE ambassador was back in Iran last year, as well as the Kuwaiti ambassador was back in Iran last year. And now Saudi Arabia has officially kicked off the resumption of ties with Iran. So, this is a new chapter. And we do believe that the two countries, though they have their rivalries in the region, could work out mechanisms through mutual interests and regional mechanisms in order to resolve their problems. And we could see or at least we could expect better days for this region.

Kaveh: Let’s cross over to Mister Jeff Brown. Mr. Brown, how do you assess the role of Beijing in this rapprochement now? When it was first announced, Tehran, Riyadh, and Beijing, said they vowed to spare no effort to boost regional and international peace and stability as well. What could this mean for the security of the region?

Jeff: Thank you for having me on. I think it all goes back to Saudi Arabia, seeing that Iran was incorporated into the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Iran has been working tirelessly with China to integrate itself into the Belt and Road Initiative, along with Russia, with the north-south corridor down to the Persian Gulf and also the BRICS. Iran wants to join BRICS, and Saudi Arabia saw that. I think that Saudi Arabia is being very, very, very wise to work with China and Iran because they want now to be in all three of those. They want to be in the SCO, BRICS, and the Belt and Road Initiative.

So, it’s going to be great for them and China, in spite of all of the horrific Sinophobic Racist Propaganda and the Western Big Lie Propaganda Machine, China diplomacy has always been about win-win, mutually beneficial cooperation, and let’s just keep our fingers crossed that with this new reproachment, we can have, we can end the genocide in Palestine, we can end the genocide in Yemen, and we can end the genocide in Syria, Libya. The whole area has been toxicly destroyed by the United States and NATO in general. So, it’s hopefully a new dawn and a new day.

Kaveh: Right. Mr. Khoshcheshm, Iran has boasted its look to the East foreign policy strategy. Could that be, in your opinion, setting a precedent for other countries in the region to look more towards establishing stronger relations with the likes of China and the likes of Russia as potential major global shifts are on the horizon?

Khoshcheshm: Yes, true. That’s exactly true. And that’s why Iran could be seen as playing a major role in this development. I mean, in this resumption of ties with Saudi Arabia, the Chinese have been given a new foothold in West Asia where they were not very much acquainted with the players and were not present politically. But now Iran, because of this fact that you just mentioned, Iran’s growing role in the equations in developing a new world order, is giving a new foothold to the Chinese to be present in political, major political developments in this part of the world, to guarantee their own interests and to play the role of a good power. Unlike the United States, this is highly important.

And I do confirm what my colleague said, because one of the reasons why Saudi Arabia and a number of Arab states in the southern rims of the Persian Gulf were opposed to the JCPOA when Obama was in office, was the very fact that they were afraid of being sidelined if Iran-US relations were to be resumed. The same reason is present now that the power is on a transition to the East. As my colleague said, Iran has joined the SCO. It’s going to join or intends to join the BRICS group of countries, and they are very much inclined to bring Iran in. Iran is the main Silk Road initiative component, the most cost-benefit-effective part of this chain. And also, Iran is the main ring for the north-south corridor and a number of other corridors in the region. And Iran’s foreign policy under President Raisi is basically focused on developing ties with the regional nations, neighboring states, as well as what you call the look to the east, which is very much true.

And this means that in a world, where power is on a transition from the West to the East, Iran alongside China, Russia, India, and a number of others, Iran is also finding a stronger and bigger role. It’s accepted and admitted as a major regional power by China and Russia and therefore the Saudis and others, they do not want to be sidelined in this respect. If you just take a look at their stances with regard to the Ukraine war, you could see that the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and a number of others, they are not playing on the side of the United States fully and completely, but they are trying to keep a balance between the two sides to see what is going to be the outcome. So, they are afraid of death.

So, this is highly important to note that as Iran is finding a bigger foothold and finding more and more power in the new world order, it’s also giving it more opportunities, and better opportunities to Russia and to China, especially China in this part of the world. And the others are watching this and they do not want to stay back. That’s why you saw a reduction of OPEC-Plus quota, the ceiling of production just a few days earlier, which ended up in a price hike. This means cooperation between OPEC and Russia, basically. So, the world is changing and everyone wants to move in order not to stay back to find a better place, a better role. So, this means new equations with pork from now on, there will be more new equations in relations among the regional countries, including Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Kaveh: Jeff J. Brown, what about the ramifications for the tumultuous global energy market? Will the reconciliation between Tehran and Riyadh go as far as settling some of the uneasiness in the oil market, in your opinion?

Jeff: Oh, I think so. You know, Saudi Arabia is mostly black-T oil. Iran is mostly gas. But any cooperation that they can have together, and I think also we have to be thinking about Qatar, Bahrain, and the other Gulf Crown Countries. If they also have gas and oil, Kuwait, etcetera, it should stabilize. If Iran and Saudi Arabia are holding hands diplomatically and strategically with the SCO and the BRI and BRICS, then obviously it’s going to solidify any cooperation and decision-making in the global hydrocarbon market. So, I think it’s just great news. And it will go down in the annals of 2023 as one of the most important international developments – this reproachment between Iran and Saudi Arabia. I think it’s going to lead to a lot of good things for the Global Majority.

Kaveh: Thanks a lot, gentlemen. Sayed Mustafa Khoshcheshm joined us from Tehran, and Jeff J. Brown spoke to us from Normandy. Thank you for contributing to this segment of the program.


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JEFF J. BROWN, Editor, China Rising, and Senior Editor & China Correspondent, Dispatch from Beijing, The Greanville Post

Jeff J. Brown is a geopolitical analyst, journalist, lecturer and the author of The China Trilogy. It consists of 44 Days Backpacking in China – The Middle Kingdom in the 21st Century, with the United States, Europe and the Fate of the World in Its Looking Glass (2013); Punto Press released China Rising – Capitalist Roads, Socialist Destinations (2016); and BIG Red Book on China (2020). As well, he published a textbook, Doctor WriteRead’s Treasure Trove to Great English (2015). Jeff is a Senior Editor & China Correspondent for The Greanville Post, where he keeps a column, Dispatch from Beijing and is a Global Opinion Leader at 21st Century. He also writes a column for The Saker, called the Moscow-Beijing Express. Jeff writes, interviews and podcasts on his own program, China Rising Radio Sinoland, which is also available on YouTubeStitcher Radio, iTunes, Ivoox and RUvid. Guests have included Ramsey Clark, James Bradley, Moti Nissani, Godfree Roberts, Hiroyuki Hamada, The Saker and many others. [/su_spoiler]

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