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They discussed various topics including the political situation in Peru, the United States, the ongoing situation in the Middle East, and the potential collapse of NATO and the European Union. They also shared the potential implications of US President Trump’s policies on international relations.

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Peru, US, and Middle East Politics

Peter and Jeff discussed the political situation in Peru and the United States. Peter shared his concerns about the deteriorating political situation in Peru, while Jeff expressed his hope for change under the new US administration. They also discussed health issues, with Peter mentioning a tumor and Jeff sharing his experiences with non-malignant tumors. The conversation then shifted to the Middle East and the topic of immigration. Peter and Jeff discussed the potential implications of the US’s new immigration policies and the impact of mass migration on countries like France and the United States. They also touched on the issue of citizenship in Europe, with Peter and Jeff agreeing that many European countries have relatively easy citizenship processes. The conversation ended with a discussion about the Schengen zone and its impact on Switzerland’s borders.

West Asia Conflict and Israel’s Goals

Jeff and Peter discussed the ongoing situation in the Middle East, now referred to as West Asia. Peter speculated that a ceasefire agreement, possibly influenced by a deal between Trump and Netanyahu, might not hold for long. He suggested that Netanyahu’s ultimate goal could be to control all of Gaza and expand Israel’s borders, potentially leading to control of a significant portion of the world’s hydrocarbon resources. Peter also mentioned the possibility of a new canal, the Ben-Gurion Canal, replacing the Suez Canal, which would further empower Israel. Jeff agreed with Peter’s analysis, stating that the Jewish state of Israel would win either by exterminating or evacuating the Palestinians. Both agreed that this situation needs to be halted.

US Role in Middle East Politics

Peter and Jeff discussed the political climate in the Middle East, particularly focusing on the role of the US under Trump’s administration. They expressed skepticism about Trump’s claim to be a peace president, given his cabinet’s composition of Zionists. Jeff pointed out that Trump has received significant donations from the Jewish lobby, which he believes has influenced Trump’s actions. They also discussed the ongoing conflict in Palestine and the role of the US in Syria. Jeff suggested that the US has lost control in the region, and that Trump’s administration is unlikely to make significant changes in Palestine due to its ties with the Jewish lobby. They also touched on the topic of Israeli infiltration into Muslim societies, with Jeff mentioning a program called “Cassandra” that aims to infiltrate Jewish men into Arabic halls of power. The conversation ended with speculations about Trump’s relationship with Europe and the potential consequences of his administration’s actions.

Ursula Von Der Leyen and US Inauguration

Jeff and Peter discussed the perceived totalitarianism of Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission President, and her lack of democratic legitimacy. They also discussed the recent US presidential inauguration, noting that Michael Balweg, a German businessman and right-wing AFD party member, was invited, while no one from the European government was. They speculated that this might be a positive sign for Balweg and his connections, such as RFK Jr. Jeff also mentioned Eric Zemmour, a right-wing French politician, who was present at the inauguration and being interviewed by French media.

EU Collapse and Education Decline

Jeff and Peter discussed the potential collapse of NATO and the European Union due to the increasing dissatisfaction of some member countries. They specifically mentioned Hungary and Slovakia as potential exiters. Jeff expressed his desire to see France leave the EU as well, viewing the EU as an instrument to destroy European civilization, culture, economy, and education. They also discussed the decline in the quality of education in Europe, attributing it to the influx of immigrants and the Bologna Process. Both agreed that these changes were intentional and not coincidental.

Trump-Putin Meeting and Ukraine Conflict

Peter and Jeff discussed the potential meeting between Trump and Putin, with speculation that it might take place in Moscow rather than Switzerland. They also discussed the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and the potential for Russia to gain control over more territory. Jeff expressed concern about the situation, particularly the involvement of NATO and the European Union, and suggested that Russia might need to reclaim all of its historical territories to achieve peace. Peter mentioned that he would send Jeff a translation of an email from a retired Swiss colonel who has insights into the situation.

Trump’s Policies and Global Economic Shift

Jeff and Peter discussed the potential implications of US President Trump’s policies on international relations. They agreed that Trump’s threats to impose a 100% tax on China might not be effective, given China’s reorientation of its economy towards the global south. Peter highlighted China’s Belt and Road Initiative as a significant factor in this shift, with China investing in infrastructure projects in various countries, including ports and airports. Jeff and Peter also discussed the potential impact of these policies on NATO and the US’s role in financing European military budgets. They concluded that the US’s influence in Europe and Asia might be diminishing, with China and Russia increasingly turning towards the global south for economic growth.

Optimism, Funding, and Taiwan Plans

In the meeting, Peter and Jeff discussed their levels of optimism for the world. Peter gave a score of 7, while Jeff rated it a 4 or 5. They also discussed the influence of funding on political decisions and the potential for peace in Palestine and Ukraine. Jeff shared his plans to host a guest in his house in Taiwan, which he described as a beautiful island and full of mountains. They agreed to continue their informal discussions in the future.

Transcript

Jeff J. Brown: How are you doing? How are things in Peru?

Peter Koenig: Okay. I mean, the political situation is not the greatest but it’s okay. I mean, we know that and have been pretty much become used to it although it is hilarious to see how this country is going down the drain. I’ve talked to many people, Peruvians who lived here. You know, when I first came about 40 years ago, it was a different place.

Today, it’s been deteriorating to a point where corruption is just so far you don’t want to get in touch with any policeman because he corrupts you. It is just and that’s the lower level. At the higher level, it’s much more primitive and there are millions if not billions of dollars involved. And the lady who runs the show has been, of course, she is a scholar of Klaus Schwab’s and she is right now with the WEF in Davos.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Peter: While the country goes to pits.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah. What happened to your nose? Did you have a little tumor removed?

Peter: That’s the beginning of it. Yes, I had a little tumor and yesterday I had to go to take a biopsy.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Peter: And I don’t know the result yet, but I hope it’s nothing bad because I’ve had that for many years but it’s gotten.

Jeff: People who get a lot of sunshine like you and I got a lot of sunshine when I was younger, we get a lot of non-malignant tumors basal cell carcinomas and squamous cell carcinomas, and they don’t kill you but people who don’t get a lot of sun, people who hide from the sun, they have a much higher incidence of melanoma. And of course, melanoma is deadly.

Peter: That can be deadly. Yes.

Jeff: So, I think it’s probably going to be a basal cell carcinoma. They always are. I mean, I’ve got I’m covered with them. I’m just covered I’ve just had dozens and dozens and dozens of them burned off.

Peter: I have them too. I have them on top of my head since I still have some hair you can’t see them, but I feel them.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah.

Peter: And some of them have been burned off. And this one, I don’t know. I don’t know yet. But I’m not too scared. I think I’m fine. I’ve gotten a lot of sun while I was young. And of course, it plays out when you get old.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, I think it’s the fact that you got a lot of sun I think there’s a 99% chance it’s a basal cell carcinoma and they’ll just burn it off or cut it off. All right. Well, do you want to talk about the Middle East today?

Peter: Well, we can talk about anything you like yes, the Middle East. We can also talk about this hilarious and actually great decision of Donald Trump within eight hours of being signed in with a special order exiting WHO.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was pretty amazing. I have not had a chance to read his inaugural speech. Did you read it?

Peter: Parts of it. I mean, I heard parts of it rather than reading it. And of course, it’s the Donald trump speech but if he holds on to what he is saying, then maybe we are in for a little bit of change.

Jeff: Yeah, let’s hope so. Let’s hope so. I think one of his first acts was to his first acts declare that in the United States, you can only be a male or a female. You can’t be anything other than a male or a female. Is that also true?

Peter: Right, right. One of the executive orders was to get rid immediately of the woke agenda.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah. Also, why did he sign an executive order to ban birth on American soil where you can no longer automatically be an American by being born on American soil? Is that another one of the things that he did? I don’t know. That’s what he promised.

Peter: I’ve heard about it, but I don’t know whether he signed an executive order. But I’ve heard about the comments on it that this may be very severe because I think it’s somewhere in the Constitution so might be not that easy to push through. I’m not sure whether he signed the executive order.

Jeff: Okay, yeah, yeah. I think it might be in the Constitution. You’re right. I hadn’t thought about that. And if you want to be a president, you have to be born on American soil and we’ll see how that is. Well, they need to pass it and France needs to pass it. All of Europe needs to pass it. I think Switzerland, you can’t be Swiss if you’re born in Switzerland, right? You have to go through all the administrative hoops to become a Swiss citizen, right?

Peter: Right, right. I think in most of Europe, it’s still that way, isn’t it?

Jeff: I don’t know. I think Germany’s been that way for a long time.

Peter: And France?

Jeff: Oh, no, France, if you’re born on French soil, you’re French.

Peter: Oh, really?

Jeff: Oh, it’s terrible. So, people from the south of France and from the east of France flood in here, get pregnant and get all of their medical expenses paid for by the taxpayers to have the child everything’s paid for with the nice French socialist medical system, which is being completely debauched and destroyed by unlimited mass migration. And then they’re born on French soil and the child is automatically French. So, they really need to change that.

Peter: Yes, I mean, this is especially true with all the immigrants from the South and it’s exactly the same in the United States.

Jeff: And the East. We’ve got Ukrainians and people from countries all over the Middle East and it’s just unbelievable. We’re just overwhelmed, overrun with mass migrants in France. It’s just awful. And not just France, but also England just Western Europe in general other than Switzerland, because you all control your borders. But the Schengen Europe, the Schengen zone is just literally overwhelmed with mass migrants you know and it’s just awful.

Peter: Well, Switzerland is also a member of Schengen.

Jeff: Oh, so people can just drive into Switzerland?

Peter: Yes.

Jeff: Switzerland is Schengen? Oh, I didn’t know that.

Peter: For example, when I come back from Peru, I go through customs in France because I land first in France. And from there, there’s no more customs check when I get into Switzerland. It’s like being home.

Jeff: Oh, no, that’s terrible for Switzerland. Oh, no, that’s awful. Well, tell us what you think is going on in the Middle East, or what is now fashionably called West Asia, which is really a more accurate term. What’s going on in West Asia, and the Middle East?

Peter: What’s going on? Well, what has been going on so far you know the latest is this so-called ceasefire. The ceasefire agreement that somehow a team that Trump sent to Doha apparently managed to achieve. Obviously, Trump must have talked to Netanyahu before. He must have made a deal with him. And I don’t know how long the steel is going to hold and what the deal really contains.

My speculation is that it could easily say, look, if you do this, at least for now, I think originally it was for 46 days. And nobody talks about the rest, even though the phases that have about three phases to steal would last obviously much, much longer, probably several years. And therefore, you know, saying that it will be over in 46 days, I don’t think that’s feasible. But anyway, what he may have said, look, and he has always been threatening Iran.

We could easily say, well, if you do that at least for the next couple of months or so some of the Gazan people can get rescued either leave or get out into Egypt and some have already left Egypt. Then, well, we’ll help you with Iran, that could be something. I don’t know if it’s speculation but that could be something because Iran next to Syria is of course next on Netanyahu’s list and that would be horrifying.

I mean, even more so than what he has done or allowed to do in Syria. Now, another scenario is that he will push Netanyahu will open the borders to Egypt and he may have made a deal, most probably that the remaining Gazan citizens would be pushed out into the Sinai. And since at least a couple of years or so, Egypt has built 10 cities in the Sinai. You hardly see them, but every so often you see a satellite picture that shows them and these 10 cities would be to accommodate the Gazan citizens that eventually leave.

And that’s maybe one of the plans that Netanyahu has to still take control of all of Gaza. I mean, there are many reasons for doing that for him, obviously, other than getting rid of the Palestinians altogether. And the key reason is the Greater Israel, the expansion and to look greater Israel, all of us have seen maps of that and they don’t hide these maps. If that would happen, then Netanyahu or whoever succeeds him would be in control of about roughly two-thirds of the world’s hydrocarbon resources.

And the only country that may have more could be Venezuela. I think it would even exceed Russia. So, with that, you control again, you control the world, whatever you want to do. Then there’s the other plan, which as far as I know has probably already started to be built the so-called Ben-Gurion Canal which would replace the Suites Canal because right now the Suez Canal is under the control of Muslims, of course, of Egypt.

Sometimes I don’t know whether Yemenis know what they are doing when they are shooting on vessels particularly US and Israeli vessels in the Red Sea. They’re actually provoking the rest of Europe not to go through the Suez Canal anymore and so the Suez Canal has lost its luster if you want to call it that way and they know Isreal has managed to damage enormously economically damaged Egypt by doing so.

So, if this Ben-Gurion Canal will actually manifest itself, it would be probably you know from the maps I’ve seen, it would be probably entering from the Mediterranean Sea just either at the fringe of Gaza or just outside of Gaza. And that would be another disaster, of course, because then the rest of the world would be at the mercy of Israel.

Jeff: But obviously getting rid of the Palestinians, whether they’re exterminated like dogs which is now happening, or whether they’re evicted the Jewish state wins either way. By emptying Gaza, the Jewish state of Israel wins either way, whether they’re slaughtered or evicted, it’s the same result for the Jewish state of Israel.

Peter: Exactly. Exactly. So that’s what has to be halted. And we don’t know really to what extent Trump is serious if he says he is a peace and he said that yesterday, actually, that he is a peaceful president. He will not start wars. He will end wars. If that is true, then one wonders why he occupies his cabinet or future cabinet with full-fledged Zionists and some of them really very serious and asking Zionists, actually, you could call them which is of course not in line with what he says that he is going to be a peace president.

Jeff: Well, unfortunately, he has over 20 multi-million-dollar donations from we’ve got to be honest from the Jewish lobby in the United States starting with Marianne Adelson.

Peter: Exactly. She gave him a mission.

Jeff: She gave him a hundred million and she and her family are invested in the Carlyle Group which goes back to George Herbert Walker Bush and they are in the arms business.

Peter: Yes.

Jeff: These people, these 20-something multi, multi-million donations, I mean, 5 million, 10 million, it adds up to hundreds of millions of dollars were given to Trump by the Jewish lobby in the United States. They’re not doing this out of the kindness of their hearts; They’re doing this to buy to buy basically to buy him. I mean, he has bought it.

Peter: Absolutely.

Jeff: And so, I just don’t know. I just don’t know. I mean, he can talk and talk and talk but he’s the one that put the U.S. Embassy in East Jerusalem, he’s the one that’s, you know, bribing Arab countries to join the Abraham Accords to recognize Israel as you know diplomatically. So, I think he could do something in Ukraine. I think he could do it. He has no choice because NATO has lost. But I don’t think he’s going to be able to do much in Palestine because he’s bought. He’s bought by the people who want to exterminate the Palestinian people and who want a Greater Israel, a Jewish state from The Nile River in Egypt to the Euphrates Tigris rivers in Iraq.

Peter: What about half of Saudi Arabia will be part of it?

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, the northern part of Saudi Arabia would be a part of this Greater Israel, this Jewish state called Israel. So, I don’t think he has a lot of wiggle room in Palestine because they own him. They have the title and the deed to Donald Trump, the Jewish lobby in the United States. I just don’t see him doing anything other than keeping this bogus ceasefire going for a few weeks. He’s already said, it’s already on the record that he told Netanyahu that it’s not permanent and then they can always go back and look at it again.

What they’re going to do is they’re going to get all their prisoners they’re going to get all of the prisoners from Hamas and then they’ll just go back to doing what they were doing, which is exterminating gentiles, you know, the goyim. So, I’m very, very pessimistic about the Middle East. I just do not see any solution because they will not stop. Now they’ve got the Golan Heights and now they’ve moved into Western Syria.

Peter: They have all of Syria basically under control through these so-called terror groups which they funded and created.

Jeff: Yeah, and Turkey is an ally of Israel, the Jewish state. The United States is occupying Syria. So, Syria is gone. Syria is no more. Did you hear that the leader, this terrorist leader in Syria is actually Jewish that back 20, 30 years ago, Mossad created this program to secretly infiltrate Jewish men to marry Muslim women? They take Arabic names and they marry Muslim women to infiltrate into Muslim society. And this guy’s name is like Ben Gore. His name is like Abraham Ben Gore or something like that.

Peter: Particularly, I’ve not heard, but I’ve heard about the infiltration in general that is not new, but that particularly I have not heard.

Jeff: They even showed his picture. And the name of the program is some Roman or Greek god. Is it Cassandra, the Cassandra program, or something like that? They use some kind of the Cleopatra program or something and they actually did it. And so now they have all these Jewish men who have Arabic names and who have been infiltrated into Arabic halls of power to do the bidding of Israel the Jewish state. It’s crazy. I mean, you have to hand it to them. They’re really, really good at what they do. They’re really good.

Peter: Well, but of course you have to see also they don’t do that alone. The Mossad, CIA, and MI6,

Jeff: Yeah, they work hand in hand.

Peter: They were working very closely together. And I mean, this whole Hamas attack on the 7th of October was all planned, three years in advance. So, this is where if people start talking about it as if this would have been a surprise, I just have to turn it off because I cannot listen to this lie anymore. And this is being propagated constantly in the Western mainstream although most intellectuals whether they dare talk about it or not, know that this has been planned for a long time.

And it happened exactly how Netanyahu wanted it and when and exactly the time so that the border could be left unprotected. That has been witnessed by actual border protection senior officials that they got the order to, I think for seven or eight hours neglect the protection. So, all of that is a background, is a very valid background to know you have to know that then you know also why the war is going on the way it is going on.

Jeff: Plus, they organized that techno concert or whatever it was

Peter: Yeah, exactly.

Jeff: Right on the border so then the Israelis could massacre their own citizens, 1,200 of them. I’m sure Hamas killed a few but a lot of them were killed by the Israeli army.

Peter: Well, there were, I think, two or three girls coming forward and telling them how Israeli planes bombarded them and killed them. I don’t know what happened to them afterward, but they came forward and they witnessed actually to some of the, of course, not the mainstream even if they did it to the mainstream, they would have never reported it.

Jeff: Yeah.

Peter: But they talked about it. So, I absolutely, agree with you. You know, these 1200 if there were 1200, I doubt that number also.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Peter: They killed most of them by the Israeli Air Force.

Jeff: To give a pretext to destroy Palestine.

Peter: Exactly.

Peter: To destroy the Gaza Strip. Yeah, it’s crazy. Well, what’s going to happen with Trump in Europe? What do you think is going to happen there? We’ve got the totalitarian dictator Ursula von der Leyen who wasn’t even really voted for. I mean, she just imposes her will in Europe. She’s like a totalitarian. She really is. She’s a totalitarian dictator. She does whatever the hell she wants.

Peter: Oh yeah, he was never elected and you know, the interesting thing though I just read something today or heard it which is very interesting. Let me just look for it.

Jeff: She is an empress. She’s an absolute empress. An imperial empress. It’s disgusting.

Peter: An empress would be respectable. She is not as respectable at all. She is corrupt. She is a scholar of Klaus Schwab and apparently every two weeks or so she is visiting him in Geneva to find out what she has to do.

Jeff: To get her talking notes.

Peter: No, no, she is the pits. But you know what I’ve heard just today is that nobody from really from Europe, nobody of a name from Europe has been invited to the inauguration yesterday except not van der Leyen, Olaf Scholz.

Jeff: Keir Starmer.

Peter: Nobody except for a certain Michael Ballweg. Have you heard about him?

Jeff: No, no.

Peter: Michael Ballweg is very, I don’t know very but he is kind of famous in Germany as a businessman about in his 40s or early 50s from Stuttgart, I believe. And he’s one of the first ones who protested against the lockdowns against the message in Germany. And he eventually then I think belonged to the right-wing AFD party.

Jeff: Oh, okay.

Peter: Which, of course, in many ways, I’m not a supporter of what they generally stand for but what they have done so far or what they actually promote in Germany makes a lot of sense compared to what everybody else does. So, he has been invited apparently to the inauguration. He seems to know also RFK Jr. And so, he probably is very much linked up with him. This has been said in a recent interview, I think from yesterday with the not-so-known TV station Beetle TV. I don’t know whether I’ve heard about it. They follow the case of Reiner Fuellmich.

Jeff: Oh, yeah, yeah.

Peter: And the context of Reiner, they have mentioned Ballweg carrying a message, particularly for RFK Jr. who was very befriended with Reiner Fuellmich and also, for Trump. So maybe that will have a positive result. I don’t know. But already the sheer fact that Trump invites from the right-wing party but nobody from the official government, I think I find hilarious.

Jeff: Well, also in France, nobody in France was invited except I know Eric Zemmour. Eric Zemmour was invited, and of course, he has run for president and he is right wing. And he is very closely aligned with the Rasemmblement National, the RN.

Peter: With Le Pen.

Jeff: With Le Pen, although they have gone their separate ways because he wants to be president, too. But he was there. He was being interviewed in front of the Congress with the dome in the background. He was being interviewed by French media. So yeah, I think Europe got snubbed big time. And so, Eric Zemmour and Michael. How do you spell his name?

Peter: B-A-L-L-W-E-G.

Jeff: Oh, Ballweg. Okay, got it. All right. Got it. All right. Well Zemmour is, Z-E-M-M-O-U-R. So he’s a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant speaker. He’s really unbelievable. Well, I think we’ll just have to give up on Europe. I mean, even if Trump manages to get the United States out of Ukraine, the Europeans have been so infected with anti-Slavic, Russia-phobic that the halls of power are just infected with Russia-phobic Slav-hating, people except for Slovakia, Serbia, and Hungary. So those are the three that have any…

Peter: But they’re very important. You know, with Hungary for example they have threatened already on Orban has on several. He has sort of at one point, I think I heard him say there’s always the option of getting out of the European Union. I mean, yes, of the European Union, you can get out and just tell the Europeans. But he has also mentioned getting out of NATO. And you know, getting out of NATO is very, very easy.

I don’t know whether you’ve read the rules you know any member of NATO can I think with three months’ notice say that they will leave of course there will be a lot of pressure and I don’t know what blackmailing and maybe threats that I don’t of course you know Europe. So that would be normal. But you can do that very, very easily. And nobody can object because they pretend that countries, NATO countries, and EU countries, I think at this point you can almost put them together. You know, the EU and NATO are under the same roof anyway at the headquarters.

Jeff: In Brussels.

Peter: Yeah, in Brussels. So, you could put them together, and actually, if somebody like Orban had the courage to exit NATO, NATO would collapse because other countries who also are fed up with NATO might follow suit and the same with the European Union. I’m pretty sure some of those that you just mentioned before, have been very much threatened that they should never dare. I mean, Fico, he was almost killed.

Jeff: Yeah, he was assassinated. Well, an attempted assassination.

Peter: Yeah, attempted assassination.

Jeff: Of course, Serbia is not a member of the European Union and it’s very much aligned with Russia.

Peter: No, no, but I mean…

Jeff: There are two countries in the EU, Slovakia and Hungary. Well, I’d like to see them both go. I’d like to see France leave also. It’s just the EU it’s a Mossad, CIA, and MI6 instrument to destroy European civilization, European culture, and European economy, European education you know with the WEF. We could just add Mossad, CIA, MI6, WEF, and WHO.

Peter: Yeah, you can continue. The destruction.

Jeff: Yeah, the destruction of Western civilization.

Peter: Exactly. And the destruction of the European education system has already started in Bologna. Remember the conference in Bologna?

Jeff: Yeah, the Bologna process was in 1990, 1992, or something like that.

Peter: Exactly. Nobody wanted to acknowledge it. Me already at that time I said, this was destroying the European education process. No, are you crazy? We are just adjusting to what the United States is already doing because of the exchange of students. It makes it much easier. That’s total bullshit. Total bullshit. I wrote about it. They think I’m crazy. Now I think there are lots of people who start seeing it.

Jeff: My wife, of course, she’s French and she went to French public schools and went to university in Paris and got her master’s in Paris and all that. Of course, she graduated back in the early in late 70s, and early 80s, And back then to get your baccalaureate from high school, you have to get a 10 out of 20. And it was so difficult that even a 10 out of 20 was considered to be very good.

She got a 10 out of 20 and she was very, very happy to get a 10 out of 20. And now since the 80s with this Bologna process, it has been so domed down. And I’m sorry, I’m not a racist but hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of immigrants flooding into the country who can’t speak French. And of course, they’re all brought into the schools, and no problem, no problem. So now they’ve actually compared the tests.

They’ve compared the baccalaureate tests in France and a 10 and for Florence, my wife, in the late 70s, early 80s, if that same test was given to the baccalaureate candidates today, they would get a three. They would get a three. That’s how dumbed down, that is how dumbed down the education system has happened. And I’m sure it’s the same thing in the rest of Europe. I mean, I’m sure.

Peter: Oh, yes. This is not a coincidence you know that.

Jeff: They can’t read, they can’t write, they can’t add, they can’t subtract, they can’t multiply, they can’t divide. And they go, oh, they don’t need to learn that. They don’t need to learn how to multiply. They’ve got calculators.

Peter: Yeah, they got a calculator. No, no. I mean, this is all plan. This is not a coincidence. These things they don’t happen just because they don’t happen just because nobody paid attention. I think the utmost attention is paid to the fact that all these immigrants, just have to be integrated. We have to be integrated into society, integrated into the school system which downgrades the school system obviously.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah. Well, it’s all intentional. Let’s move to let’s move to Ukraine. What do you think is going to happen?

Peter: Well, okay. I mean, I have several, who knows? Who knows? I’ve had the speculation that Trump has already a slot reserved for him at the WEF. So, he will be in one way or another present life at the WEF but life could be and for now, they are saying It will be by video stream.

Jeff: Oh, so he’s going to give a speech at WEF.

Peter: Yes. And I think the time slot that has been reserved is for Thursday. This coming Thursday. So, he would be there by video stream. But some people speculate and you know the WEF is being protected now by the Swiss Air Force. Can you believe the first time you have armed fighter jets circulating about it?

Jeff: Swiss fighter jets circling over Davos.

Peter: Yes, yes. I’m not kidding.

Jeff: Oh, God.

Peter: I’m not kidding. Actually, what I wanted to do, we have a little group to maintain neutrality in Switzerland and we are pushing this forward because its neutrality is peace and NATO is war. And the Swiss are moving more and more towards that. And within this group, we have a former Swiss colonel who was or I guess you always are when once you have been in the Secret Service you always are. He is part of our group.

And I wrote an article which you probably you may have seen or not about this current WEF. And of course, he got a copy of it. And he wrote me an email. I mean, it’s hilarious. He explains exactly what is happening in Germany. But I have it translated into English. And we’ll forward it to you. Because he said, you can quote me. So, okay. I mean, if I can quote him, it doesn’t matter that it’s going out. So, I’ll send it to you.

Jeff: So, he’s a retired colonel in the Swiss army?

Peter: In the Swiss army.

Jeff: Okay.

Peter: He was with the Secret Service and the Swiss Army. So he knows exactly what is going on.

Jeff: Okay. All right.

Peter: And he has a very funny way of explaining this and I had to smile and you will too when you read it. So, I’ll send it to you.

Jeff: All right. Well, thank you. What really worries me is that I’m really worried that Putin is going to give away the store. Russia is in control. They’re taking a village a day. They’re just gobbling up hundreds and thousands of kilometers of Ukrainian territory and I’m afraid that he’s going to cut two of an easy deal with NATO and Trump because if Odesa does not become if they don’t close off Ukraine from the Black Sea, they’re going to just keep feeding Ukraine arms. They’re going to keep feeding Ukraine intelligence. It’s not going to work. I mean, do you really think that they’re going to stop just because of an agreement?

Peter: Well, we’ll see. But what I was hoping for, since this has been said by Trump already maybe almost a year ago or more that the first day he enters the office, he will make peace. You know, this is impossible.

Jeff: Yeah.

Peter: But anyway, even if it is fast, my speculation was, and I think I’m wrong, my speculation at that time was, or even a week ago that he would last-minute fly to Switzerland to Dabi and Davos and Putin, who has not been invited for the last three years, he has never been invited to Davos, the arrangements were made that they would actually meet somewhere.

Jeff: In Davos or somewhere in Europe. Okay.

Peter: Somewhere in Europe. That was my speculation. And that will be, of course, that would be timely and would meet with Trump’s promises that he would meet with Putin. And he has obviously talked with Putin already many times before. So, they both know what the conditions are and whether they meet them or not. But now today I have heard three minutes, I think it’s about three minutes.

Putin’s speech congratulated the inauguration and he mentioned in his speech that the meeting would be in Moscow. He doesn’t say it, he doesn’t give a date but he said soon will be in Moscow. If this is true then you know then it’s certainly not Switzerland. And this also makes sense because Lavrov has often said Switzerland has lost its credibility.

Jeff: It’s neutrality, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Peter: And he is absolutely right. Now, the WEF can claim they’re above Switzerland. So it would make an exception. But still, I believe it may not be in Davos.

Jeff: You know, I mean, how do the Russians confirm that there’s no military activity in what’s left of Ukraine? You’ve got Romania on the border. You know, you’ve got Poland. I mean, those people are batshit crazy. They are so anti-Russian and anti-Slav. It’s frightening. So just Romania and Moldova, which have now been completely bastardized by the West. And you still have Slovakia and Hungary who are you know trying to resist but Poland can keep pumping arms into the area. They’re building the largest NATO base in the world right on Russia’s border in Romania. Moldova’s been completely corrupted by the European Union and they faked it. They faked the election.

Peter: Already a long time ago. You know, I used to work on several occasions in Moldava. And already then at that time, the world’s largest recipient per capita recipient of US aid was Moldova.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Peter: By far so you know how they are bought and have been. And yet the majority of the Moldavan want to ally with Russia. It’s logical.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah.  Well, that’s why they canceled the election of this George, whatever his name is.

Peter: George Dăchescu.

Jeff: George Dăchescu, they canceled the election. He’s anti-NATO and anti-European Union. So, they just canceled the election.

Peter: I mean, certainly the instructions came from Brussels.

Jeff: Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely

Peter: So that’s how this starts.

Jeff: Well, yeah, I personally I mean, it may take a while, but I think the only way that Russia will ever have peace in Ukraine is if they get all the way to the border of Poland and Romania and Moldova and completely and repatriate the entire geographical area, which has been a part of Russia for hundreds of years anyway.

Peter: For at least 300 years.

Jeff: And because otherwise, they will never have peace. Even if Trump manages to you know stop American funding, well, the arms dealers are just going to go to Brussels and they’ll just keep supplying arms.

Peter: Well, there I doubt. I doubt that Brussels is a total puppet of Washington, a total puppet of Washington. If Trump says no more financing, U.S. Financing of arms, nor subsidizing Zelensky, then I think Europe will stop too.

Jeff: But what about NATO? Because NATOs in Brussels too.

Peter: But NATO is two-thirds financed by the US.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah.

Peter: You know, there are only two North American countries in the 32 members of NATO and that’s the US and Canada.

Jeff: Canada, yeah.

Peter: And the rest is Europe and the US finances about two-thirds of that’s what Trump already said during his first mandate, this has to change. So, they increased the budget to 2% of GDP, the military budget. I think I’m not sure whether all the members have reached that now. The latest figure jumped throughout just because he doesn’t have 5%. Can you imagine? Nobody is going to go for 5% of the military budget to NATO. NATO doesn’t do shit for these people in Europe. Nothing.

Jeff: Yeah, except sell arms.

Peter: Exactly.

Jeff: Unbelievable. All right. Well, let’s move to Asia. What’s going to happen with China?

Peter: Yes, that’s another thing.

Jeff: They’ve already had a phone call. Trump and Xi Jinping have already had a phone call. What do you think is going to happen?

Peter: Yes, I know they have had apparently a very friendly phone conversation. And I’m pretty sure during that phone conversation, Trump didn’t dare threaten Xi Jinping with the 100% tax rate as he said so often already in his last few weeks. He said, well, if China doesn’t behave, we just tax them. And this is his thing. And it really doesn’t work. And you know, and I know why it doesn’t work, because both China and Russia have reoriented their economy already long ago, Russia, even before China.

Russia shortly after the 2014 Maiden coup, knew that Putin knew that there was something long-lasting going to happen and which they can no longer trust. He always tried, but he knew that in his intellect he knew that you cannot trust Europe, not under those circumstances. So, they reoriented themselves towards the global south. That’s how the global south came all about, basically.

And with Africa and also with Latin America, I think China, it’s both Africa and Latin America. And of course, the ASEAN countries you know this is the number one priority that China has gone and they have done that very, very well. This huge the largest free trade agreement that exists. I forgot its name really with most of the ASEAN countries integrated into it are New Zealand, Australia, and Japan. And those all together, they exist. I think it has become in January 2022 it has become effective.

Jeff: Yeah, with China, is it RECEP? I think something.

Peter: Yes, that’s what it is. And they generate within five years about 30% of the world’s GDP is expected. And they are already in the right direction. Can you imagine? These are huge countries economically. So, with that said, you know, Trump has nothing to do. I mean, they don’t need it, they don’t depend on the American market anymore. Already now. Plus, they have an agreement with Putin to thank for that with the last meeting in October of the BRICS.

He was very clever, not admitting any new members to the BRICS. But he has created a new status which is associate members. You know, these associate members, they have in terms of trade the same benefits. You know, they trade with each other in local currencies. Or they decide the currency as long as it’s not a dollar. They can say, okay, we will trade in yuan or we will trade in each other’s currency. You know, they set up these local agreements between the central banks, and then you don’t need to go through the SWIFT system anymore.

And that’s what they are it may haven’t been easy but during the past three years, China has worked on that and has China and Russia, both of them. And have managed to get really out of this transfer system of the West. So, this is blah, blah. And Trump knows it and many people know that this tariff system doesn’t work. I remember, in his last year, I think in 2020 was it 2020 or 2019, Trump punished and sanctioned China with a number of products with about 23 or 25% tariffs. Do you remember that?

Jeff: Oh, yeah.

Peter: You know big publicity. I said, and China didn’t say anything. You know, China is always very discreet. I love it. They don’t talk about it. So, I went into a lot of research into a lot of research. And then said, okay, what does it really mean to China? And I came up with the fact that silk means nothing. It’s peanuts what it meant for China these higher tariffs. They had already other outlets. And they didn’t need, they still didn’t need the United States. Actually, the United States needs more China than China needs.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, for all of its imports.

Peter: And what they have now, I think they still have what they had last year, and you know that. China had last year a trade surplus of a trillion dollars. Can you imagine?

Jeff: That’s unprecedented.

Peter: Unprecedented. So that after the course of their reserves, their reserves were already over 2 trillion for a long time, they tried to pull it down, but it was not so easy because for trade with anybody you need dollars because the dollar makes up about 60 percent of all the currencies that flow in the world.

Jeff: Yeah, global transactions.

Peter: Exactly, global transaction currencies, 60%. So, it’s very difficult to get rid of it. But China has a way of at least getting rid of some. And one of the ways isn’t that this is not very often talked about either but very clever is the Belt and Road.

Jeff: Of course.

Peter: And with the Belt and Road, they invest their dollars abroad.

Jeff: Yeah, to build ports and airports and highways and hospitals and schools.

Peter: Ports and airports and highways and airways and what have you. You know the port in Peru the port of Chancay which was recently inaugurated and not by coincidence at the same time that they had the APEC meeting. Xi Jinping was there.

Jeff: Yeah.

Peter: And so, what does it mean? These countries, they’re getting invested. They get investments in dollars from China. It’s either a grant or semi-grant or whatever is repayable is repayable in local currencies. Not in dollars, either in yuan or in local currencies. So that’s one way of getting rid of your dollar profitably.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for everybody.

Peter: For everybody. And that’s what they are doing. And I mean, this port of Chancay is an enormous attraction of course for all of Latin America. It’s like a pool for export and for import.

Jeff: Yeah, well, they now have the rail line from Brazil that goes to the port. Isn’t that rail line open now?

Peter: Yes, that’s the idea. It’s not yet finished.

Jeff: It’s not yet finished, Okay. So that Brazil can export millions of tons of soybeans and Argentina can export millions of tons of soybean.

Peter: Yeah, right. And by doing that these countries start working closer together in South America. And that creates another that generates a factor of economic growth. I mean, it’s brilliant. It’s just brilliant what Xi Jinping has invented with the 2013 Belt and Road. And I’ve been writing about that a lot. I think this is one of the greatest ideas that came out so far in this century.

Jeff: Well, to close out, on a scale of 1 to 10

Peter: Hello, are you still there?

Jeff: Yeah, I’m still there. Can you hear me? Oh, you got cut off.

Peter: I am here anymore.

Jeff: Yeah, because you got cut off. You’re frozen. There you go. You’re back. You’re back now.

Peter: Okay, you’re back too.

Jeff: You froze up for about 20 seconds. Anyway, on a scale of 1 to 10, taking into consideration Europe, Palestine, Ukraine, China, Trump, the United States, and everything else, what score do you give in terms of optimism? What score do you give the world from 1 to 10? 10 is to total world peace and one is Armageddon. What score do you give? So, to close out.

Peter: This is a loaded question, Jeff.

Jeff: Give me a score and I’ll give you mine.

Peter: Okay. Well, what I think, what we have to do not just because we think positive thinking is going to be great for the future but we have to be convinced that the times will change. So, I gave it a seven.

Jeff: Do you really? Okay, all right. I’m a little bit more pessimistic. I’m at about a four or five. Trump is an amazing communicator. He’s charismatic. He’s a demagogue. I think he means well for a lot of things, but I just saw the list of all of these multi, multi, multi-million-dollar donations from basically the Jewish Israeli lobby in the United States and these people want Greater Israel and they will do anything.

Peter: Well, they want Greater Israel. And it’s not a coincidence that these two wars, Gaza, Palestine, and Ukraine at the same time, there’s a very, very serious connection.

Jeff: So, I’m really worried about the people that have paid for him are going to say. “Oh, you want peace in Palestine and Ukraine? We got arms to sell, buddy. You know, we got guns to sell.” And we have a lot of territory to take over and exterminate all the people in those territories. I’m a little bit pessimistic just based on his funding.

Peter: Well, yes. I mean, if you look at that, and you know, he apparently yesterday, just in recent days, he nominated the father of his brother-in-law as ambassador to France, Kushner. Can you imagine?

Jeff: Yeah, well, Macron can have him. Well, listen, Peter, this has been wonderful. We should do this more often.

Peter: Yes, let’s do that more often.

Jeff: I want everybody out there to know we have no notes. We took no notes. We have no outline. We have nothing. We just sat down and talked.

Peter: Exactly. I think that’s the best way to do it. And it’s also fun. I love to talk with you about stuff like that.

Jeff: Well, listen, I’m going to give you a Buddhist bow. I’m going to give you a Buddhist bow from Taiwan province in China.

Peter: Same to you.

Jeff: We’re loving it here so come visit us. Bring your wife who walked in a couple of times, bring her, and come visit Taiwan province. It’s beautiful. It’s just a beautiful island. We’re surrounded by mountains I mean it’s just unbelievably beautiful.

Peter: Yeah, I think we should talk about that a little bit maybe outside of this. I really love to talk with you about that. I mean, this is terrific. You know how much I’m inclined Chinese.

Jeff: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, listen, I’m going to say goodbye and then I’ll click the button and we can talk afterward, okay?

Peter: Okay.

Jeff: Bye-Bye.

Peter: Bye-bye.

Jeff: And then I’ll stop the recording.

 

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JEFF J. BROWN, Editor, China Rising, and Senior Editor & China Correspondent, Dispatch from Beijing, The Greanville Post

Jeff J. Brown is a geopolitical analyst, journalist, lecturer and the author of The China Trilogy. It consists of 44 Days Backpacking in China – The Middle Kingdom in the 21st Century, with the United States, Europe and the Fate of the World in Its Looking Glass (2013); Punto Press released China Rising – Capitalist Roads, Socialist Destinations (2016); and BIG Red Book on China (2020). As well, he published a textbook, Doctor WriteRead’s Treasure Trove to Great English (2015). Jeff is a Senior Editor & China Correspondent for The Greanville Post, where he keeps a column, Dispatch from Beijing and is a Global Opinion Leader at 21st Century. He also writes a column for The Saker, called the Moscow-Beijing Express. Jeff writes, interviews and podcasts on his own program, China Rising Radio Sinoland, which is also available on YouTubeStitcher Radio, iTunes, Ivoox and RUvid. Guests have included Ramsey Clark, James Bradley, Moti Nissani, Godfree Roberts, Hiroyuki Hamada, The Saker and many others. [/su_spoiler]

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